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 More options Jun 18 2009, 11:11 am
From: scripturelink <Marc...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:11:43 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jun 18 2009 11:11 am
Subject: [Tridentine South (And Southern) Africa] Vatican: Lefebvrite (SSPX) Bishops h...

(Tridentine South Africa; c.f. BBC World News (British; Governmental;
Secular) 17 / 06 (June) / 2009 ; Zenit News Service (Catholic;
Independent; American) 15 / 06 (June) / 2009 ; 17 / 06 (June) / 2009 ;
Catholic Culture News briefs (American; Catholic; Independent) on 08 /
06 (June) / 2009 ; 17 / 06 (June) / 2009; Vatican information Service
(VIS) (Vatican Based; Hierarchical; Catholic) 17 / 06 (June) 2009)

Article By Marc Aupiais

See Also: Timeline:

2 July 1988: ECCLESIA DEI: John Paul II: 4 "Priestly Fraternity of St.
Pius X "/"SSPX"/"FFSPX" Bishops Excommunicated "LATAE SENTENTIAE" on 30
June 1988; as had been declared the day before, by Decree of the
Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops on 1 July 1988;

Ecclesia Dei: Organization formed to facilitate relations with SSPX:
with aims of bringing them back into full communion: doctrinally and
sacramentally

27 October 1998: STATUS OF THE SOCIETY OF ST. PIUS X: Pontifical
Commission Ecclesia Dei: SSPX a schism, however: as it is a priestly
schism: not all laity attending their churches are in schism: in
extreme danger of such though

7 July 2007: SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM: Benedict XVI: ON THE USE OF THE ROMAN
LITURGY PRIOR TO THE REFORM OF 1970: Priests may perform the mass via:
Tridentine Liturgy's Order of the (Latin) Mass

21 January 2009: DECREE REMITTING THE EXCOMMUNICATION "LATAE
SENTENTIAE" OF THE BISHOPS OF THE SOCIETY OF ST PIUS X: Cardinal
Giovanni Battista Re: Congregation for Bishops: Re lifts
Excommunications, after Benedict XVI expressed wishes to explore new
avenues of bringing SSPX back into full communion. Excommunication is a
pastoral measure to ignite repentance, and prevent spread.

Radio Vaticana: Vatican Lifts excommunications of SSPX Bishops: "The
four bishops are Bernard Fellay the superior general of the Society of
Saint Pius X, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson and
Alfonso del Gallareta" : 25 / 01 (Jan) / 2009: following oaths of
allegience the Vatican gained from the four

10 March 2009: LETTER OF HIS HOLINESS POPE BENEDICT XVI:TO THE BISHOPS
OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CONCERNING THE REMISSION OF THE EXCOMMUNICATION:
OF THE FOUR BISHOPS CONSECRATED BY ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE: Benedict XVI:
notes controversy around Williamson, SSPX are not legitimate part of
hierarchy, Pope wants to place the commission of "Ecclesia Dei", set up
to deal with SSPX as part of "Congregation for the Doctrine of the
Faith",

Radio Vaticana: copy of same letter by Benedict XVI: they publish it on
12 March 2009

12 March 2009: Radio Vaticana: "Fr Federico Lombardi, SJ, Head of the
Press Office of the Holy See" on Benedict XVI's Letter explaining the
lifting of the excommunication

12 March 2009: Radio Vaticana: "Bishops Welcome Pope's Letter"
Article:

As the SSPX reportedly desires to ordain 30 new priests, in multiple
different (The BBC mentions Germany and the United States of America
(U.S.A)) countries: both one German Diocese, and the Vatican itself,
have set out tough warnings.

Of the situation in Germany, on Monday the Eighth of June, it was
reported: that Regensburg Diocese, under Bishop Gerhard Müller, has
warned German SSPX leaders, that their Bishop, and the priests he
validly, but illicitly ordains: will "almost certainly" (Zenit News
Service (Catholic; Independent; American) 15 / 06 (June) / 2009) face
excommunication, if they go through with ordinations (to be done by
Levebvrite (SSPX) Bishop Alfonso de Galaretta), set for 27th June 2009:
in Bavaria, inside the wellknown the Western European country.

The rector, of the SSPX's Zaitzkofen, Bavarian seminary, has declared
that the ordinations will go ahead, citing an alleged "Emergency"
situation in the Church, and the recent decline in the Church in
Europe, claiming loyalty to church and pope.

On the 17th of June, the situation had Yesterday, possibly escalated:

Vatican Information Service (V.I.S), published a Vatican Press Release:

"ORDINATIONS BY FRATERNITY OF ST. PIUS X REMAIN ILLEGITIMATE

VATICAN CITY, 17 JUN 2009 (VIS) - The Holy See Press Office published
the following communique at midday today:

"In response to the frequent questions that have been raised over
recent days concerning the priestly ordinations by the Fraternity of
St. Pius X, scheduled to take place at the end of June, suffice it to
refer to what the Holy Father wrote in his Letter to the Bishops of the
Catholic Church on 10 March this year: "As long as the Society (of St.
Pius X) does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers
do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church. ... Until the
doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status
in the Church, and its ministers ... do not legitimately exercise any
ministry in the Church".

In the same Letter, the Pope also announced his intention to change the
status of the Commission 'Ecclesia Dei', making it part of the
Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. There is reason to believe
that the definition of this new status is imminent. This constitutes a
premise for launching dialogue with the leaders of the Fraternity of
St. Pius X, with a view to clarifying the doctrinal questions, and
consequently the disciplinary questions, which remain unresolved".
OP/ORDINATIONS/FRATERNITY ST. PIUS X VIS 090617 (230)"
The second notice in the V.I.S. article, as regards the restructuring
of Ecclesia Dei, is not unexpected, as Pope Benedict XVI had already in
March expressed such a desire to reconstitute the organization, and
Bishop Bernard Fellay, had already claimed (in an article Zenit
published on the 15th of June), that:

Cardinal William Levada, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine
of the Faith, had on the 5th of June, informed him, that the Pontifical
Commission of "Ecclesia Dei", would be reconstituted as a part of the
Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
As many of the surface differences between the SSPX and the Vatican are
doctrinal, especially involving the Vatican II Council, this
reconsttution of "Ecclesia Dei" is not an unexpected move,
theoretically.

When Cardinal Re, of the Congregation for Bishops: lifted the
excommunications of the 4 SSPX bishops: there was allot of confusion,
and mixed statements from various bodies. In our timeline, we have
noted some main events, which link to speeches and inter alia: Vatican
based articles. These are meant to give some context.

As our service had already noted long before the mainstream news: the
lifting of their excommunications did not give the SSPX / FSSPX Bishops
any legitimate authority within the church: the excommunications'
lifting: meant that they could go to confession, or take communion, the
second being: provided they were not inter alia in Mortal Sin. They
could not legitimately act as bishops, or priests.

The statements by the Vatican, mean that the situations in Germany and
the United States, have been noted. It may simply be another statement
of accepted facts on the half of the Vatican, but once again possibly
signals more trouble in the negotiations process.

It could also mean that perceived progress, has only been on the
surface, with both Society (of st. Pius X), and Vatican: remaining in
the same general situation as before.

As an internationally collaborative: initiative to provide a more
transparent, accurate view of the world: This service is brought to you
by the Scripturelink Search Engine (quotations, or confers in this
service/initiative, are provided to give perspective independently, or
reference some external sources: and do not imply collaboration, or any
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 More options Jun 18 2009, 11:24 am
From: scripturelink <Marc...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:24:03 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jun 18 2009 11:24 am
Subject: [Tridentine South (And Southern) Africa] Vatican: Lefebvrite (SSPX) Bishops h...

(Tridentine South Africa; c.f. BBC World News (British; Governmental;
Secular) 17 / 06 (June) / 2009 ; Zenit News Service (Catholic;
Independent; American) 15 / 06 (June) / 2009 ; 17 / 06 (June) / 2009 ;
Catholic Culture News briefs (American; Catholic; Independent) on 08 /
06 (June) / 2009 ; 17 / 06 (June) / 2009; Vatican information Service
(VIS) (Vatican Based; Hierarchical; Catholic) 17 / 06 (June) 2009)

Article By Marc Aupiais

See Also:

Timeline:

2 July 1988: ECCLESIA DEI: John Paul II: 4 "Priestly Fraternity of St.
Pius X "/"SSPX"/"FFSPX" Bishops Excommunicated "LATAE SENTENTIAE" on 30
June 1988; as had been declared the day before, by Decree of the
Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops on 1 July 1988;

Ecclesia Dei: Organization formed to facilitate relations with SSPX:
with aims of bringing them back into full communion: doctrinally and
sacramentally

27 October 1998: STATUS OF THE SOCIETY OF ST. PIUS X: Pontifical
Commission Ecclesia Dei: SSPX a schism, however: as it is a priestly
schism: not all laity attending their churches are in schism: in
extreme danger of such though

7 July 2007: SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM: Benedict XVI: ON THE USE OF THE ROMAN
LITURGY PRIOR TO THE REFORM OF 1970: Priests may perform the mass via:
Tridentine Liturgy's Order of the (Latin) Mass

21 January 2009: DECREE REMITTING THE EXCOMMUNICATION "LATAE
SENTENTIAE" OF THE BISHOPS OF THE SOCIETY OF ST PIUS X: Cardinal
Giovanni Battista Re: Congregation for Bishops: Re lifts
Excommunications, after Benedict XVI expressed wishes to explore new
avenues of bringing SSPX back into full communion. Excommunication is a
pastoral measure to ignite repentance, and prevent spread.

Radio Vaticana: Vatican Lifts excommunications of SSPX Bishops: "The
four bishops are Bernard Fellay the superior general of the Society of
Saint Pius X, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson and
Alfonso del Gallareta" : 25 / 01 (Jan) / 2009: following oaths of
allegience the Vatican gained from the four

10 March 2009: LETTER OF HIS HOLINESS POPE BENEDICT XVI:TO THE BISHOPS
OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CONCERNING THE REMISSION OF THE EXCOMMUNICATION:
OF THE FOUR BISHOPS CONSECRATED BY ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE: Benedict XVI:
notes controversy around Williamson, SSPX are not legitimate part of
hierarchy, Pope wants to place the commission of "Ecclesia Dei", set up
to deal with SSPX as part of "Congregation for the Doctrine of the
Faith",

Radio Vaticana: copy of same letter by Benedict XVI: they publish it on
12 March 2009

12 March 2009: Radio Vaticana: "Fr Federico Lombardi, SJ, Head of the
Press Office of the Holy See" on Benedict XVI's Letter explaining the
lifting of the excommunication

12 March 2009: Radio Vaticana: "Bishops Welcome Pope's Letter"
Article:

As the SSPX reportedly desires to ordain 30 new priests, in multiple
different (The BBC mentions Germany and the United States of America
(U.S.A)) countries: both one German Diocese, and the Vatican itself,
have set out tough warnings.

Bavaria, Germany

Of the situation in Germany, on Monday the Eighth of June, it was
reported: that Regensburg Diocese, under Bishop Gerhard Müller, has
warned German SSPX leaders, that their Bishop, and the priests he
validly, but illicitly ordains: will "almost certainly" (Zenit News
Service (Catholic; Independent; American) 15 / 06 (June) / 2009) face
excommunication, if they go through with ordinations (to be done by
Levebvrite (SSPX) Bishop Alfonso de Galaretta), set for 27th June 2009:
in Bavaria, inside the wellknown the Western European country.

The rector, of the SSPX's Zaitzkofen, Bavarian seminary, has declared
that the ordinations will go ahead, citing an alleged "Emergency"
situation in the Church, and the recent decline in the Church in
Europe, claiming loyalty to church and pope.

On the 17th of June, the situation had Yesterday, possibly escalated:

Vatican Information Service (V.I.S), published a Vatican Press Release:

"ORDINATIONS BY FRATERNITY OF ST. PIUS X REMAIN ILLEGITIMATE

VATICAN CITY, 17 JUN 2009 (VIS) - The Holy See Press Office published
the following communique at midday today:

"In response to the frequent questions that have been raised over
recent days concerning the priestly ordinations by the Fraternity of
St. Pius X, scheduled to take place at the end of June, suffice it to
refer to what the Holy Father wrote in his Letter to the Bishops of the
Catholic Church on 10 March this year: "As long as the Society (of St.
Pius X) does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers
do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church. ... Until the
doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status
in the Church, and its ministers ... do not legitimately exercise any
ministry in the Church".

In the same Letter, the Pope also announced his intention to change the
status of the Commission 'Ecclesia Dei', making it part of the
Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. There is reason to believe
that the definition of this new status is imminent. This constitutes a
premise for launching dialogue with the leaders of the Fraternity of
St. Pius X, with a view to clarifying the doctrinal questions, and
consequently the disciplinary questions, which remain unresolved".
OP/ORDINATIONS/FRATERNITY ST. PIUS X VIS 090617 (230)"Reconstitution
of "Ecclesia Dei"

The second notice, while reported as though fresh by some: in the
V.I.S. article, as regards the restructuring of Ecclesia Dei, is not
unexpected, as Pope Benedict XVI had already in March expressed such a
desire to reconstitute the organization. In fact, is seems to us, as
you may note above, to simply be a reference to the same letter, in
which Benedict XVI, expressed such desire in March. This would mean
that the hype over this reference to Ecclesia Dei, was due to human
error on behalf of the media which reported this as fresh, and a
misreading of the release.

The possible confusion, which sees such desire as fresh, may relate to
a likely accurate report that: SSPX Bishop Bernard Fellay, had already
claimed (in an article Zenit published on the 15th of June), that:

Cardinal William Levada, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine
of the Faith, had on the 5th of June, informed him, that the Pontifical
Commission of "Ecclesia Dei", would be reconstituted as a part of the
Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
As many of the surface differences between the SSPX and the Vatican are
doctrinal, especially involving the Vatican II Council, this possible
reconsttution of "Ecclesia Dei" was, at the time in March, when first
mentioned: not an unexpected move, theoretically.

Context:

When Cardinal Re, of the Congregation for Bishops: lifted the
excommunications of the 4 SSPX bishops: there was allot of confusion,
and mixed statements from various bodies. In our timeline, we have
noted some main events, which link to speeches and inter alia: Vatican
based articles. These are meant to give some context.

As our service had already noted long before the mainstream news: the
lifting of their excommunications did not give the SSPX / FSSPX Bishops
any legitimate authority within the church: the excommunications'
lifting: meant that they could go to confession, or take communion, the
second being: provided they were not inter alia in Mortal Sin. They
could not legitimately act as bishops, or priests.

The statements by the Vatican, mean that the situations in Germany and
the United States, have been noted. It may simply be another statement
of accepted facts on the half of the Vatican, but once again possibly
signals more trouble in the negotiations process.

It could also mean that perceived progress, has only been on the
surface, with both Society (of st. Pius X), and Vatican: remaining in
the same general situation as before.

As an internationally collaborative: initiative to provide a more
transparent, accurate view of the world: This service is brought to you
by the Scripturelink Search Engine (quotations, or confers in this
service/initiative, are provided to give perspective independently, or
reference some external sources: and do not imply collaboration, or any
kind of affiliation, or co-operation with other services, or
initiatives, which are quoted or noted in articles)

Check the accuracy, and perspectives of our contents via the above
listed search engine: against other "Catholic" services

Subscribe to our articles via email:

Subscribe to South African Catholic

Add your email to our system to: subscribe to: "South African Catholic
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Email:

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our service to know your views, and we hope you will leave appropriate,
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marc...@gmail.com)!

Or become a fan on Facebook:

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generally: our articles from this service

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or want to see our google reader: Shared Items: click here

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 More options Jun 18 2009, 11:34 am
From: scripturelink <Marc...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:34:18 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jun 18 2009 11:34 am
Subject: [Tridentine South (And Southern) Africa] Vatican: Lefebvrite (SSPX) Bishops h...

(Tridentine South Africa; c.f. BBC World News (British; Governmental;
Secular) 17 / 06 (June) / 2009 ; Zenit News Service (Catholic;
Independent; American) 15 / 06 (June) / 2009 ; 17 / 06 (June) / 2009 ;
Catholic Culture News briefs (American; Catholic; Independent) on 08 /
06 (June) / 2009 ; 17 / 06 (June) / 2009; Vatican information Service
(VIS) (Vatican Based; Hierarchical; Catholic) 17 / 06 (June) 2009)

Errors in original article (due to reporting of other services), and
due to fixing up these errors, or fact checking, have hopefully now
been cleared up.

Article By Marc Aupiais

See Also:

Timeline:

2 July 1988: ECCLESIA DEI: John Paul II: 4 "Priestly Fraternity of St.
Pius X "/"SSPX"/"FFSPX" Bishops Excommunicated "LATAE SENTENTIAE" on 30
June 1988; as had been declared the day before, by Decree of the
Prefect of the Congregation for Bishops on 1 July 1988;

Ecclesia Dei: Organization formed to facilitate relations with SSPX:
with aims of bringing them back into full communion: doctrinally and
sacramentally

27 October 1998: STATUS OF THE SOCIETY OF ST. PIUS X: Pontifical
Commission Ecclesia Dei: SSPX a schism, however: as it is a priestly
schism: not all laity attending their churches are in schism: in
extreme danger of such though

7 July 2007: SUMMORUM PONTIFICUM: Benedict XVI: ON THE USE OF THE ROMAN
LITURGY PRIOR TO THE REFORM OF 1970: Priests may perform the mass via:
Tridentine Liturgy's Order of the (Latin) Mass

21 January 2009: DECREE REMITTING THE EXCOMMUNICATION "LATAE
SENTENTIAE" OF THE BISHOPS OF THE SOCIETY OF ST PIUS X: Cardinal
Giovanni Battista Re: Congregation for Bishops: Re lifts
Excommunications, after Benedict XVI expressed wishes to explore new
avenues of bringing SSPX back into full communion. Excommunication is a
pastoral measure to ignite repentance, and prevent spread.

Radio Vaticana: Vatican Lifts excommunications of SSPX Bishops: "The
four bishops are Bernard Fellay the superior general of the Society of
Saint Pius X, Bernard Tissier de Mallerais, Richard Williamson and
Alfonso del Gallareta" : 25 / 01 (Jan) / 2009: following oaths of
allegience the Vatican gained from the four

10 March 2009: LETTER OF HIS HOLINESS POPE BENEDICT XVI:TO THE BISHOPS
OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CONCERNING THE REMISSION OF THE EXCOMMUNICATION:
OF THE FOUR BISHOPS CONSECRATED BY ARCHBISHOP LEFEBVRE: Benedict XVI:
notes controversy around Williamson, SSPX are not legitimate part of
hierarchy, Pope wants to place the commission of "Ecclesia Dei", set up
to deal with SSPX as part of "Congregation for the Doctrine of the
Faith",

Radio Vaticana: copy of same letter by Benedict XVI: they publish it on
12 March 2009

12 March 2009: Radio Vaticana: "Fr Federico Lombardi, SJ, Head of the
Press Office of the Holy See" on Benedict XVI's Letter explaining the
lifting of the excommunication

12 March 2009: Radio Vaticana: "Bishops Welcome Pope's Letter"
Article:

As the SSPX reportedly desires to ordain 30 new priests, in multiple
different (The BBC mentions Germany and the United States of America
(U.S.A)) countries: both one German Diocese, and the Vatican itself,
have set out tough warnings.

Bavaria, Germany

Of the situation in Germany, on Monday the Eighth of June, it was
reported: that Regensburg Diocese, under Bishop Gerhard Müller, has
warned German SSPX leaders, that their Bishop, and the priests he
validly, but illicitly ordains: will "almost certainly" (Zenit News
Service (Catholic; Independent; American) 15 / 06 (June) / 2009) face
excommunication, if they go through with ordinations (to be done by
Levebvrite (SSPX) Bishop Alfonso de Galaretta), set for 27th June 2009:
in Bavaria, inside the well known Western European country.

The rector, of the SSPX's Zaitzkofen, Bavarian seminary, has declared
that the ordinations will go ahead, citing an alleged "Emergency"
situation in the Church, and the recent decline in the Church in
Europe, claiming loyalty to church and pope.

On the 17th of June, the situation had Yesterday, possibly escalated:

Vatican Information Service (V.I.S), published a Vatican Press Release:

"ORDINATIONS BY FRATERNITY OF ST. PIUS X REMAIN ILLEGITIMATE

VATICAN CITY, 17 JUN 2009 (VIS) - The Holy See Press Office published
the following communique at midday today:

"In response to the frequent questions that have been raised over
recent days concerning the priestly ordinations by the Fraternity of
St. Pius X, scheduled to take place at the end of June, suffice it to
refer to what the Holy Father wrote in his Letter to the Bishops of the
Catholic Church on 10 March this year: "As long as the Society (of St.
Pius X) does not have a canonical status in the Church, its ministers
do not exercise legitimate ministries in the Church. ... Until the
doctrinal questions are clarified, the Society has no canonical status
in the Church, and its ministers ... do not legitimately exercise any
ministry in the Church".

In the same Letter, the Pope also announced his intention to change the
status of the Commission 'Ecclesia Dei', making it part of the
Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. There is reason to believe
that the definition of this new status is imminent. This constitutes a
premise for launching dialogue with the leaders of the Fraternity of
St. Pius X, with a view to clarifying the doctrinal questions, and
consequently the disciplinary questions, which remain unresolved".
OP/ORDINATIONS/FRATERNITY ST. PIUS X VIS 090617 (230)"Reconstitution
of "Ecclesia Dei"

The second notice, while reported as though fresh by some: possibly
from reading the V.I.S. article, as regards the restructuring of
Ecclesia Dei, is not unexpected, as Pope Benedict XVI had already in
March expressed such a desire to reconstitute the organization. In
fact, is seems to us, as you may note above, to simply be a reference
to the same letter, in which Benedict XVI, expressed such desire in
March. This would mean that the hype over this reference to Ecclesia
Dei, was due to human error on behalf of the media which reported this
as fresh, and a misreading of the release.

The possible confusion, which sees such desire as fresh, may relate to
a likely accurate report that: SSPX Bishop Bernard Fellay, had already
claimed (in an article Zenit published on the 15th of June), that:

Cardinal William Levada, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine
of the Faith, had on the 5th of June, informed him, that the Pontifical
Commission of "Ecclesia Dei", would be reconstituted as a part of the
Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
As many of the surface differences between the SSPX and the Vatican are
doctrinal, especially involving the Vatican II Council, this possible
reconsttution of "Ecclesia Dei" was, at the time in March, when first
mentioned: not an unexpected move, theoretically.

Context:

When Cardinal Re, of the Congregation for Bishops: lifted the
excommunications of the 4 SSPX bishops: there was allot of confusion,
and mixed statements from various bodies. In our timeline, we have
noted some main events, which link to speeches and inter alia: Vatican
based articles. These are meant to give some context.

As our service had already noted long before the mainstream news: the
lifting of their excommunications did not give the SSPX / FSSPX Bishops
any legitimate authority within the church: the excommunications'
lifting: meant that they could possibly go to confession, or take
communion, the second being: provided they were not inter alia in
Mortal Sin. They could not legitimately act as bishops, or priests.

The statements by the Vatican, mean that the situations in Germany and
the United States, have been noted. It may simply be another statement
of accepted facts on the half of the Vatican, but once again possibly
signals more trouble in the negotiations process.

It could also mean that perceived progress, has only been on the
surface, with both Society (of st. Pius X), and Vatican: remaining in
the same general situation as before.

As an internationally collaborative: initiative to provide a more
transparent, accurate view of the world: This service is brought to you
by the Scripturelink Search Engine (quotations, or confers in this
service/initiative, are provided to give perspective independently, or
reference some external sources: and do not imply collaboration, or any
kind of affiliation, or co-operation with other services, or
initiatives, which are quoted or noted in articles)

Check the accuracy, and perspectives of our contents via the above
listed search engine: against other "Catholic" services

Subscribe to our articles via email:

Subscribe to South African Catholic

Add your email to our system to: subscribe to: "South African Catholic
News Service"'s dispatches: via email

Email:

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