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  <title type="text">Atheism vs Christianity Google Group</title>
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  Welcome to Atheism vs Christianity. A site for continuous, lively and engaging debate between atheists and theists. All religions are invited to take on the challenges offered by atheists to your beliefs.
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  <updated>2010-03-14T13:05:51Z</updated>
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  <name>thea</name>
  <email>thea.n...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-14T13:05:51Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/3f8057a3e6b39dc8/e83d10c82fc74da3?show_docid=e83d10c82fc74da3</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: Brock: A few unanswered questions</title>
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  Eris: If you can&#39;t come up with something better than this garbage - no one &lt;br&gt; is going to debate with you - because apparently you haven&#39;t learned how to &lt;br&gt; debate what you believe. &lt;br&gt; Go back and apologize to Neil and ask for his help in learning how to &lt;br&gt; debate.
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  <author>
  <name>thea</name>
  <email>thea.n...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-14T13:04:18Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/ede1915fd5499f10/c3bd18435606965c?show_docid=c3bd18435606965c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/ede1915fd5499f10/c3bd18435606965c?show_docid=c3bd18435606965c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: Christianity for Dummies</title>
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  On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 12:13 AM, TibetanMonkey, Founder of the Church of &lt;br&gt; After they sinned -- and God made them coats from the killing of an animal - &lt;br&gt; they started eating meat. I wonder if this was a natural event or a &lt;br&gt; supernatural event - as God had to teach them how to bleed an animal?? :)
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  <author>
  <name>thea</name>
  <email>thea.n...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-14T13:02:33Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/2b5b7d14d545a874/e7d16aae18403cc5?show_docid=e7d16aae18403cc5"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: Islamic Theologian&#39;s Theory: It&#39;s Likely the Prophet Muhammad Never Existed</title>
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  Oh Muhammad existed - about 500 to 600 AD -- how about that? &lt;br&gt; But it is after he died that the Koran was written and *they say* this is &lt;br&gt; what *he said*.
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  <author>
  <name>Bob T.</name>
  <email>b...@synapse-cs.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-14T12:59:23Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/9b4d4fd95fa4540e/1a0f9eaba34fbd3d?show_docid=1a0f9eaba34fbd3d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Bill Maher&#39;s &quot;atheism&quot; is not complete</title>
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  That is correct. &lt;br&gt; No, it cannot. The US govt. is not a god. &lt;br&gt; I don&#39;t &amp;quot;reject&amp;quot; gods, I just don&#39;t believe in them. However, I do &lt;br&gt; believe in the US government. &lt;br&gt; Look, dude, your entire argument is silly. You&#39;re pretending that &lt;br&gt; excessive devotion to a government or cause is so much like &lt;br&gt; worshipping a deity that the target of that devotion is actually a
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  <author>
  <name>thea</name>
  <email>thea.n...@gmail.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-14T12:58:56Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/31a30338df50a538/779e8132337919ca?show_docid=779e8132337919ca"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: Where are the Xtians?</title>
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  Ah Observer, we love your acid tongue - how great you are!! &lt;br&gt; I truly believe that if only we had salvation presented like they used to 50 &lt;br&gt; years ago at Camp Meetings there would be a change in the way people live, &lt;br&gt; what they allow into their lives, and they would know that they have a God &lt;br&gt; in Heaven who loves us more than we can ever love ourselves.
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  <author>
  <name>thea</name>
  <email>thea.n...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-14T12:53:32Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/37739651a1242da4/7272bc0e19f54347?show_docid=7272bc0e19f54347</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/37739651a1242da4/7272bc0e19f54347?show_docid=7272bc0e19f54347"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: Digest for atheism-vs-christianity@googlegroups.com - 25 Messages in 11 Topics</title>
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  I&#39;m not going to hell -- I have heaven now - because of the *down-payment* &lt;br&gt; of my future inheritance. And it is wonderful, marvelous, matchless Amazing &lt;br&gt; Grace given by God the Father of Abraham, Isaac and Israel through His Only &lt;br&gt; Begotten Son, Jesus. Jesus died in my place on Calvary, and because I &lt;br&gt; accept His Sacrifice for me (which took care of Satan&#39;s sin), I am accepted
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  <author>
  <name>ranjit_mathews@yahoo.com</name>
  <email>ranjit_math...@yahoo.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-14T12:45:52Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/859e5c177aad3bf9/144a2d4497ea25e5?show_docid=144a2d4497ea25e5"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Did Jesus exist, and does it matter?</title>
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  Gee, given that Plato was a theist, how would he have been able to &lt;br&gt; hold an opinion on whether a just life is easier for atheists too? &lt;br&gt; Per that hypothesis, kids wouldn&#39;t need Bogeyman either. Yet, some &lt;br&gt; parents find that this has utility. &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Bogeyman&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Sometimes parents will, as a way of controlling their children,
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  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-14T12:33:35Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/99a07abca8dcd510/5fa5ed7bd5759b55?show_docid=5fa5ed7bd5759b55"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: Religious pamphlet: Dressed to be raped</title>
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  Okay ... but why would that be your problem? &lt;br&gt; Auntie Trancie&#39;s advice column says: &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;Never get in the middle of a cat fight. ;-) unless you&#39;re on a news group &lt;br&gt; in which case say what you think is right.&amp;quot; &lt;br&gt; Why? &lt;br&gt; You&#39;re &amp;quot;safe&amp;quot; from the physical claws. Lol.
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  <author>
  <name>Simon Ewins</name>
  <email>sjew...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-14T12:31:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/4223aa4872af3de2/259ff28264b717db?show_docid=259ff28264b717db</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/4223aa4872af3de2/259ff28264b717db?show_docid=259ff28264b717db"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: The relativity of simultaneity</title>
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  [JFG] &lt;br&gt; Not at all. I simply recognize that there may be convincing evidence &lt;br&gt; that has not yet been discovered. I remain certain, at this point, in &lt;br&gt; light of all the available evidence, that the existence of the Christian &lt;br&gt; God is highly improbable. &lt;br&gt; Naturalism, and an investigation of magic and the magical claims made by
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  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-14T12:22:45Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/f7fd0edb60ed7644/c770129e6be5c300?show_docid=c770129e6be5c300"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Yamani or Your Life</title>
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  Original source: &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.slate.com/id/2247256/#add-comment&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-14T12:19:29Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/f7fd0edb60ed7644/57356b50e9ca1e6e?show_docid=57356b50e9ca1e6e"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Yamani or Your Life</title>
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  TLC. Just some advice based on the Google TOS. &lt;br&gt; Please include links to the source article and for your protection it is &lt;br&gt; better to quote excerpts and not the entire article because the full article &lt;br&gt; may be under copyright by the source web site. &lt;br&gt; If this post is reported to Google Abuse you could be banned for violating
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  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-14T12:16:29Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/f7fd0edb60ed7644/1021be47fd7ced15?show_docid=1021be47fd7ced15</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/f7fd0edb60ed7644/1021be47fd7ced15?show_docid=1021be47fd7ced15"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Yamani or Your Life</title>
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  The above is an excerpt from the article TLC provided by Hitchens.
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  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-14T12:15:23Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/f7fd0edb60ed7644/78914173a7a4a45c?show_docid=78914173a7a4a45c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/f7fd0edb60ed7644/78914173a7a4a45c?show_docid=78914173a7a4a45c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Re: Yamani or Your Life</title>
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  I want DNA testing :-). &lt;br&gt; They should have to, first and foremost, prove that they are indeed &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;descendents of Mohammed&amp;quot;.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-14T12:13:19Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/f7fd0edb60ed7644/7982f2166db77645?show_docid=7982f2166db77645</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/f7fd0edb60ed7644/7982f2166db77645?show_docid=7982f2166db77645"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Yamani or Your Life</title>
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  I agree with Hitchens completely and the following is what the secular &lt;br&gt; humanist and freethinker groups should be doing: &lt;br&gt; &amp;quot;This has to stop, and it has to stop right now. All democratic &lt;br&gt; countries and assemblies should be readying legislation along the &lt;br&gt; lines of the First Amendment, guaranteeing the right of open debate on
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  <author>
  <name>Trance Gemini</name>
  <email>trancegemi...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-14T11:44:20Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/22e029f85fc6728b/bc929e60bad39645?show_docid=bc929e60bad39645</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.co.za/group/atheism-vs-christianity/browse_thread/thread/22e029f85fc6728b/bc929e60bad39645?show_docid=bc929e60bad39645"/>
  <title type="text">Re: [AvC] Catholic Church &amp; Pedophilia - latest incident (Pope involved)</title>
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  Here&#39;s another one Neil. &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-fg-pope-abuse14-2010mar14,0,3949496.story&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Looks like God&#39;s vicar has a lot of explaining to do, but won&#39;t. First the &lt;br&gt; US, then Ireland, then the Netherlands, and now Germany. &lt;br&gt; Systemic abuse and cover-up from the organization that supposedly is God&#39;s
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