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Recent Muggings - Signal Hill and Sandy Bay

an...@qos.co.za (Andre (TM Safety Action Group)) — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:13:06 UT

Eish, and there we were really hoping it would not be necessary to
come out of hiding to comment on these recent attacks.
Sandy Bay has become a complete 'no-go' area in our opinion. If you
are going to venture over that way be very, very prepared. Dont take
pepper spray along, our criminals sniff the stuff for fun. Take a

View this page "Criminal Incidents - February 2010"

an...@qos.co.za (Andre (TM Safety Action Group)) — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:43:27 UT

Click on [link]
- or copy & paste it into your browser's address bar if that doesn't
work.

Pretty Quiet up there... ? Perhaps not.

an...@qos.co.za (Andre (TM Safety Action Group)) — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:08:11 UT

It seems fairly quiet up there on the mountain these days. Thank
goodness! At least from a mugging perspective that is.

I'll tell you that the latest action now borders on the fringes of the
mountain - for those of us lucky (or unlucky) enough to live right on
or close to the slopes of Table Mountain. Raiding into suburbs from

Pretty Quiet up there... ? Perhaps not.

an...@qos.co.za (Andre (TM Safety Action Group)) — Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:08:23 UT

It seems fairly quiet up there on the mountain these days. Thank
goodness! At least from a mugging perspective that is.

Discussion on shelters

greenr...@gmail.com (ray) — Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:31:58 UT

A possible sleep spot. Under a ledge in the first rockband just to
the right of the beginning of Mowbray Ridge path.
Saw this on Sunday 30 August. It was occupied just after 09:30
Ray Green

Cyclist Accosted - Rhodes Mem

an...@qos.co.za (Andre (TM Safety Action Group)) — Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:37:15 UT

A cyclist riding on the mountain this morning (sat 11 July) - making
his way up Plum Pudding Hill from the Cape Town side - was accosted by
2 black men with knives. They wanted his cellphone and money - weren't
interested in the bike. They only took his phone and in parting
slashed the back tyre of his bike.

Very Good News !!! Kalk Bay Muggers taken down

an...@qos.co.za (Andre (TM Safety Action Group)) — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:13:00 UT

Hi Everyone

We heard tonight that the two Kalk Bay Amphitheatre muggers - with
evidence on them - have been arrested. The arrest was affected by the
TMNP Security Team. Both criminals were positively identified by
victims.

Awesome news indeed. Congratulations to Hilton and his team.

Best Regards

Recent Attacks - Silvermine / Sandy Bay

an...@qos.co.za (Andre (TM Safety Action Group)) — Fri, 29 May 2009 09:30:52 UT

Hi Everybody

While you are all running around various parts of the old mountain
please be aware of this warning:

- Attacks occurred previous two weekends
- Silvermine East … Amphitheatre area / Waterfall area
- Weapons involved – firearm
- Late afternoons it seems

TMNP don’t advertise these incidents (unless they are forced to) so

Re: [Table Mountain Watch:39] Re: [mountainawareness] Fw: Hike ends in tragedy

mreyno...@iafrica.com (Monty Reynolds) — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:38:23 UT

Morning Andre

Good to hear you still fighting in trenches.
Thought I'd take a walk up to the beginning of India Venster trail to check the signage before commenting.
There are two signs at the beginning of the track that clearly state that the trail is dangerous and is only for experienced hikers and that the recommended route is Platteklip gorge. Now, while it is extremely sad what happened to the gentleman that was killed, I think it extremely irresponsible for anyone to ignore the signs and take an eleven year old kid with them.

Re: [Table Mountain Watch:41] Re: [mountainawareness] Fw: Hike ends in tragedy

anw...@iburst.co.za (Anwaaz@renovating.co.za) — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:13:03 UT

Good points Leon..

the way forward is mountain patrols.. but signage must also be looked at.

Awareness at access points..

Anwaaz
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RE: [Table Mountain Watch:39] Re: [mountainawareness] Fw: Hike ends in tragedy

an...@qos.co.za (Andre van Schalkwyk) — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:03:26 UT

Here are the highlights from everyone's responses so far. Good to see the
ideas and the possible solutions.

It might be good to get some of this to the relevant WSAR / TMNP people.
I'll leave that to whoever wants to forward the information. There are some
good ideas here and it would be a shame to waste them as such.

RE: [Table Mountain Watch:40] Re: [mountainawareness] Fw: Hike ends in tragedy

christ...@jhammer.co.za (Christina Jongens) — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:26:32 UT

Thanks Anwaaz

I agree with you that this issue is more complex than purely signage and
it's great to know that you/WSAR are in discussion with TMNP regarding
the accident hotspots.

I agree with Urs that it doesn't help to bash TMNP as frustrating as
relations with them may be.

Re: [Table Mountain Watch:39] Re: [mountainawareness] Fw: Hike ends in tragedy

anw...@iburst.co.za (Anwaaz@renovating.co.za) — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 09:15:35 UT

Hi All.

I certainly agree that signage must be improved... this will not stop the mayhem..

The issue I have is people dont adhere to any signs and dont interpret maps correctly.. Even if told a route is unsafe by Hikers they still dont listen.

Ladders, chains , foot and hand holds will certainly encourage access in a route that is exposed in certain areas. More people will access leavin more problems

Re: [Table Mountain Watch:36] RE: [mountainawareness] Fw: Hike ends in tragedy

u...@nettex.co.za (Urs Huber) — Fri, 17 Apr 2009 07:47:39 UT

Hi Andre,

Your comments are absolutely right. The signage is indeed very poor, but even worse there is no signs on the top indicating that this is a dangerous route going down.
It would indeed help a lot if the signs were improved with the danger clearly stated, but even this can't prevent stupid people from going up this route. I have personally seen people taking up dog's on the India Venster route!

Re: [Table Mountain Watch:37] RE: [mountainawareness] Fw: Hike ends in tragedy

anw...@iburst.co.za (Anwaaz@renovating.co.za) — Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:16:06 UT

Hi.

I have a differnet point of view on this and will reply shortly

Anwaaz Bent
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